Descendants of Guille Payn

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Descendants of Guille Payn



This tree from Payne's Armorial of Jersey was added to the site in 2018. A review by Mike Bisson in 2022 called into question the accuracy of this tree. Although it includes no fewer than five seigneurs of major fiefs, the information provided by Payne was sketchy in the extreme

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  • 1 Guille Payn [1] m Unknown Bras de Fer, daughter of Geoffrey
    • 2 Jean Payn [2] m Unknown Dumaresq, daughter of Guillaume [3]
      • 3 Philippe Payn (1420-1497)[4] m Thomasse de Carteret, daughter of Richard [5]
        • 4 Philippe Payn
          • 5 Mabel Payn (1500-1565) [6] m (1526, Samares) [7]John Dumaresq (1501-1541) [8]
          • 5 Marguerite Payn (1510-1570) m 1, Edouard Payn; 2, Jean Le Gallez
      • 3 Jean Payn [9]
        • 4 Jean Payn m Unknown Bras de Fer

Notes and references

  1. Jurat 1473-1493
  2. Seigneur of Samares
  3. Seigneur of La Haule
  4. Seigneur of Samares. Jurat 1477-1497 Philippe's birth year was not given by Payne, but is shown in online trees as 1420. His death in 1497 is assumed from the date shown for when he ceased to be a Jurat. He clearly cannot have been the father of Mabel and Marguerite, as previously shown. Researchers believe that he had a son, also Philippe, but no dates can be found anywhere for him
  5. Seigneur of Longueville. Payne shows him as Regnauld, but more recent research suggests Richard
  6. Dame of Samares. Mabel, as shown in Payne's tree, clearly could have been born in 1500 (or 1505 as shown in many online trees), the daughter of the Philippe who died in 1497. It is likely that there was another Philippe in a generation in between.
  7. The marriage is shown in an online tree as having been at Samares, but it is more likely to have been in the parish church - St Clement
  8. of Vinchelez de Bas
  9. Lieut-Bailiff 1515-1519