Talk:Descendants of Pierre Gibaut
Charles Hugh Renouf (see descendants of Clement Renouf) became tuteur of children of Abraham Gibaut and Eliz Neel - his Dupré wife was a cousin of Marie Dupré, Abraham’s mother. St Lawrence gravestone of Jean Gibaut and Marie Dupré also has son Abraham d. 1790, next to Jean Gibaut & Eliz Vincent stone. Partage L/C/174/A/36 shows Abraham, son of Jean Gibaut and Marie Dupré as dying by 1793. This is definitely the same deceased Abraham whose children had Renouf as tuteur (appointed 1790 L/C/174/A/34) with various contracts then naming the widow Eliz Neel and the son Jean, who when he became of age, brought proceedings against Renouf for negligence in his tutelle (several documents with similar refs). The son Jean refers to his uncle Jean (mention of costs for burial 1802?); 1794 arbitration initiated by this Jean, mentions brother-in-law Jean Vibert (husband of Marie Gibaut). James Brannan
On this tree, from Edouard Gibaut (1726- ) are descended the 19th century Gibauts of Les Vaux (La Vallée). However, the Armorial of Jersey, 165, has them descended from Edouard, son of a Nicolas Gibaut who married in 1751 Anne de la Cour. This Edouard was baptised in 1757, a generation later. The Armorial, in this instance, would appear to be mistaken: Guy Dixon
The Jean Gibaut who married (1832, St L) Marie Hamon (1798-1848): The 1841 St Lawrence census shows that Jean Gibaut was fourteen years older than Marie. She was born in 1798 in St Lawrence, and will in fact have been aged 42 in 1841, although her age has, in this case, been rounded downwards and his age slightly upwards! Marie was thus ten years younger than her husband. The previous identification of her husband as Jean Gibaut (1809- ) who was 11 years her junior, cannot therefore be correct. The marriage and its issue still feature on this tree, in their correct location: Guy Dixon
There is some valuable information on the family of Nicolas Gibaut at gen 8 in the Cattel records: D/Y/E1/33 16/5/1723 and 21/5/1724 Among others are mentioned Elie Gibaut (1700?), Charles Gibaut ca ux (husband of Elizabeth 1690), Catherine Gibaut (1696) et Elizabeth Laurens, tutrice d’Abraham Gibaut (1702), de Sara Gibaut (1708), de Marie Gibaut (1688? must be younger) et Marguerite Gibaut (1693 must be younger), tous enfants puisnés de feu Nicolas Gibaut. Also mentioned are Jean Remon et Jeanne Gibaut sa femme (1636-), fille d’Abraham Gibaut, Clement Piquet et Jeanne Gibaut sa femme, Moise Luce et Marie Gibaut sa femme – en défaut à conseiller Nicolas Gibaut fils Nicolas. Jean Bertaut fils Jean fils Jean et Eliz Gibaut sa femme, fille d’Abraham Gibaut. The fact that Elizabeth Gibaut is shown here as the daughter of Abraham implies that this is Elizabeth b c1633 and that the attribution to her of husband Noé Le Cras is probably wrong (the note says it's provisional).
In combination with the above there is a contract at 40:188 (1744) showing the following filles puisnées in the same order as above: Elizabeth, Catherine, Sara, Marie, Marguerite - and Marguerite did marry Mathieu de Ste Croix according to this contract (see footnote rejecting this). What has happened is that the birth dates for Marie and Marguerite are clearly wrong in the tree - the first dau Marie b 1688 must have died and a later Marie was bapt in 1710. Marguerite must have been slightly younger, say 1712. James Brannan
